PRobably the easiest way to go and have speakup all the way is to do a google search for the redhat port of apt. Then you can simply change all the 8.0's in your /etc/apt/sources.list to 9', do "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" and then grab the redhat 9 speakup kernel RPM's from the speakup ftp and install as normal. Then you can just be sure your boot loader is configured correctly and then reboot. You will never lose speakup in this process, and you don't have to waste any CD's, that is, of course, unless you want a backup of RH9 to use as a rescue disk or something. Hope this helps. Lorenzo -- We come to bury DOS, not to praise it. (Paul Vojta, vojta at math.berkeley.edu, paraphrasing a quote of Shakespeare)