Yes, that does seem to do the trick indeed. I ran into the same discoveries yesterday afternoon. Holding down the caps-lock key without enhancements seems to do the exact same thing as does the keypad-insert speakup key. I think this is to help out laptop users. Hey while I'm here, I have a question about the new way keymaps are done now. Can anyone explain how that process now works? What I mean is speakup doesn't come with a key map anymore but I think it is generated by genkeymap.c or something like that. I did not find any program comments to help me out thus my questions here. If I want to alter a keymap or whatever, how do I go about doing that now? Does an actual keymap still exist and I've just missed something or what? Thanks for any help. On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 09:25:50AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > Thanks, it worked. alt plus caplock made it work for now. > On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 jacobs at surferie.net wrote: > > > Hi > > >From what it looks like here, caps lock is defined as a speakup key. > > Try hitting caps+numeric keypad enter and guess what you get... speakup > > turns off. I can't seem to find a way to override it since speakup seems to > > completely take over the keymap. I've tried defining keycode 58 as Caps_Lock > > but apparently speakup is intercepting it before it gets to the normal > > keymap level. For now, if you want caps lock functionality, press any > > modifier key + caps lock. This apparently lets the caps lock key get > > through. > > HTH -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html