In the 2.5.x and 2.6.x kernels you lose ptys and only have beeps if you turn on pc speaker support in the input devices section. The beeps are flakey and don't work exactly correctly. I believe you can build-in ptys support but it is turned off by default. I may be getting that confused with something else though. If you are going to play around with the 2.6.x kernels though, you really should read all the documentation which goes along with it. As for your bns baud rate idea you may change it if you like you'll need to change the code in ser_probe() and devprobe(). If you need to ask how then you shouldn't be playing with it. The defaults for synth settings are at the bottom of each device driver and the same warning applies. If it looks foreign to you then you best leave it alone. We take indirection very seriously in our synth structures. 'grin' This is all to say if you break it you keep all the pieces. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061