I finally have it speaking! Mind you, it's not good for very much yet far as I can tell, but it's better than it was. It sure even seems like mozilla reads with it. And GNOME2 keyboard navigation is very nice indeed. Now if I can figure out how to keep it going when I switch consoles and switch back.... (Hmm) -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV/3 | "And if the ground yawned, Phone: (814) 455-7333 | I'd step to the side and say, Email: davros at ycardz.com | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!" http://www.ycardz.com/ | --Eddie From Ohio