Hi all, Thanks to Bill Acker's help last night, I was able to fix the problems I was having with speakup in my newly created redhat 8.0 installation. It is perhaps an unusual setup, so I thought I'd let everyone know that it works well. I have a pc with windows xp pro running on it (I know windows is a nasty word, but my company requires it). I am running vmware 3.2 on it, and I created the redhat 8.0 virtual machine with 2 serial ports and bridging network support. When I first talked with Bill, I couldn't get speakup to work in my installation even though the installation spoke fine. While I don't remember all the steps we followed, after using the installation cd's to perform a rescue and getting into the installation as root, we modified lilo.conf and added the necessary parameters for starting speakup, and when I rebooted all worked fine. On to adding braille support today. Thanks again Bill. Don Raikes (520) 579-9481 Due to budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned out!