Hello First of all the GUI will not at this time talk. OS X is completely different from OS9, and so the outspoken program needed to be redone to make it read the interface of the MAC. Darwin is another story. I do not know much about it. If it is Linux maybe it could be done but I figured that darwin was linux based and not unix based. If you are going to put a form of Linux on a computer why buy a Macintosh? I do agree that the MAC has benefits but not if you are not going to access the GUI. Of course it may have some I am not aware of but how is the status of porting Linux and speakup to other platforms, no, I meant architectures forgive me.. It is getting late in my corner of the world. Looking at my source tree the architectures are: Sparc64 Sparc PPC(Some MACS) MIPS M68K(isn't that modarola used in some MAC's?) Arm (BrailleNote right?) alpha good night Patrick ----- Patrick Turnage E-mail: pturnage at tampabay.rr.com AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk Home Page: http://www.access-connect.com Connecting the world to access technology information.