you have a dec alpha? sweet! I'm thinking of grabbing one of those off of ebay or something. they seem like cool machines from what I've heard. and the bios is accessible? On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 07:54:35PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > I should think the opposite is a bios you can't read without sight. > > Allan Shaw writes: > > From: Allan Shaw <technews at sympatico.ca> > > > > > > ... I wouldn't consider having to connect a Braille 'N Speak to your system > > a system with a perfectly accessible bios, in fact the exact opposit! > > > > At 11:45 12/23/03, you wrote: > > >Let's generalize this a bit further. > > > > > >Virtually all non Intel computers can be accessed over a serial port at > > >9600 baud. At least, this has been historically true for systems from > > >DEC, Sun, etc. > > > > > >In other words, the inaccessible bios was first created for Intel > > >computing platforms. > > > > > >I believe this is an important point which should not be forgotten in > > >any advocacy for accessibility on future bios implementations. We're not > > >asking for something new. We're asking that something be maintained. > > > > > >For example, my DEC Alphastation 200 has a perfectly accessible bios. I > > >simply disconnect the monitor and plug a Braille 'N Speakup into its > > >first serial port and have at it. It's brilliant, and this is how I > > >configured the bios on the computer that is now my home server. > > > > > >My experience with this ten year old DEC is the historic norm for > > >computing. > > > > > >Allan Shaw writes: > > >> From: Allan Shaw <technews at sympatico.ca> > > >> > > >> > > >> Back in the very early days of the 8286 CPU's one of the leading bios > > >> manufacturers at that time whom i believe was called Phoenix had a > > >utility > > >> which came with any system containing there bios which would allow you to > > >> modify/configure/set the parameters within the bios by running this > > >utility > > >> from at that time a command prompt. > > >> > > >> I had a system with this type of bios and was using the Artic speech > > >> product and could change anything I require within the bios and then only > > >> had to reboot my machine to pick up the changes. > > >> > > >> so as with many things, all we need to do is once again make the old > > >> something new again and develop something similar for the modern day bios > > >> and make our life a little easier. > > >> If the Phoenix company is still around, maybe that would be a good > > >place to > > >> start. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Speakup mailing list > > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >-- > > > > > >Janina Sajka > > >Email: janina at rednote.net > > >Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > >Director, Technology Research and Development > > >American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > >http://www.afb.org > > > > > >Chair, Accessibility Work Group > > >Free Standards Group > > >http://accessibility.freestandards.org > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka > Email: janina at rednote.net > Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Director, Technology Research and Development > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > http://www.afb.org > > Chair, Accessibility Work Group > Free Standards Group > http://accessibility.freestandards.org > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid back.
