Hi all. Here is an url that points to a very interesting project. Cursed GTK is a project to make Ex windows apps using the GTK libraries run on a text only console. This is still very much alpha software, but it's an interesting idea, and the web page is interesting reading. It sounds like a great way to give blind folks access to some ex windows apps using Speakup. No, I haven't tried it yet, I'm in the middle of helping all the students who are back and starting classes this week. (smile) If you decide to play with this, direct your requests for help to the author, not to the Speakup list. No one here knows anything about it, and probably won't for a while. Nevertheless, it does pose some interesting prospects for the future. The url is: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/cursed/cursed.html Have fun. Gene Collins