With all do respect to her and yourself, I could care less about someone's title or job. I respect them for it, I even commend them for it; however, if I feel that anyone, anyone at all, is making unfounded remarks and being insultive simply because they believe themselves to be correct on a subject, I take afense and also I wish to rectify such a situation. I would advise you, my friend, to read the other messages in this post, and judge for yourself if I have once been rude, ignorant (as she so elegantly puts it), or incorrect. I told her, and I will tell you too. If she can prove to me with some evidence or proof that I am wrong. I will write her an email she'll never forget, aplauding her excelence and greatness, while asking her if I may be so honored to have her emails grace my inbox; however, I will not sit by and take such treatment with just cause. And it is not only I that she has thus treated. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:14 PM To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca Subject: RE: text to html Hi all, I haven't been following this thread, but this message caught my eye. >>>>> "Sina" == Sina Bahram <sbahram at nc.rr.com> writes: Sina> Respectfully, I again ask for any evidence that my advice is Sina> contrary to any disabled person's accessing of the text. I Sina> myself am low vision, and use screen readers; however, I Sina> also use my site when I can. And I am telling you as a user Sina> that visually the pre element tag is not inaccessible. It Sina> also doesn't present any problems as does any part of the Sina> entire internet to a mobility impaired individual. Any part Sina> of accessing the internet might present some problems to Sina> such an individual; however, my advice delt with the web Sina> design of a site and I stand by it until corrected by Sina> someone knowledgeable about what their talking about. Someone knowledgeable about the subject? <sardonic grin> Um, Sina, Janina works for the AFB. Her job is to evaluate technology to see how accessible it is for the blind and others with disabilities. I believe that she is involved with the WAI Group, plus folks working on DAISY books plus a great deal more which I don't know about. Sina, my friend, you've just tangled with a tigress. If Janina says a given tag in HTML will not work or isn't accessible, then I'd tend to prick up my ears and pay attention. Indeed, if Janina tells you anything about HTML, XML, DAISY, or anything else having to do with computers and accessibility, well, I'd tend to pay attention. I have a feeling that she knows what she's talking about. As for web site accessibility for PWD and what is and isn't accessible, I can't say, except that there are sites that are not accessible for the mobility impaired because there is a time element involved in doing some of the interactive things on some web sites. There are lots of factors involved in accessibility. If you persist in tangling with a tigress, more power to ya, but--- Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
