Also, since they had technical issues with Speakup, and had to pull it from the generic Redhat kernel, it will probably be that much longer before it can even be considered for the Advanced Server kernel. It will have to go through the entire testing process all over again. Lorenzo E Pluribus Unix Luke Davis staggered into view and mumbled: > This also answers my question, and makes sense. > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Aaron Howell wrote: > > > Its simple really, > > This wasn't at all an attack on redHat, it was a simple statement of fact. > > Speakup _isn't_ part of the default kernel yet, and to the best of my knowledge, its only thus far made it as far as alan Cox's test kernels. > > Nothing that could in any way harm the stability of RH Advanced Server has any hope of getting into their kernel. > > Unlike the situation with the generic RedHat operating system, this is a good and necessary thing. > > The reason being that commercial vendors have spent countless amounts of time testing their software to make sure it functions correctly with the RH Advanced Server kernel, > > and to change the kernel in any significant way, (and I dare say RH would consider Speakup to be a significant way) > > Would invalidate much of that testing. > > Of course every time there's a re-release of RH Advanced server, the validation needs to be re-done against the whole operating system, but the chances of getting something as major as speakup included in an incremental kernel upgrade aren't particularly good. > > it, like most other technologies, will probably spend quite a bit of time in either the main linux kernel, or the RedHat modified kernel before it is considered for inclusion in Advanced Server. > > This isn't a slight on people with a disability, its a necessary evil to keep AS in a sane state, and RedHat has too much invested in it to not do so. > > Yes, I disagree with much of what redHat's done wrt disability support, but in this case they have a good business case for not acting too hastily. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >