Lorenzo, That might work, but Owen said that he's really depending on the CVS version of speakup, and he didn't seem to think that the 1.0 version would work. What's the problem with your laptop net connection? One thing I do all the time is move laptop hard drives and mount them as slave on another system, to copy files over. There are adapters that convert 40-pin IDE (desktop standard) to 44-pin IDE (laptop standard). Or maybe you can use some other method like direct cable connection or something. What OS is on the laptop, just linux? I have seen ways to connect machines with parallel cables or usb cables. -- Doug Lorenzo wrote: >Hmm. It then seems that I could mv /usr/src/speakup-1.0 /usr/src/speakup >and then cp /usr/src/speakup/install . and then ./install and the patch >should work. I might try that too if I can't get my laptop on the net. I >have the 2 computers networked, but the masquerading documentation didn't >get the client on the net.