Hi Owen, I've done a little more testing and I am now led to believe that it is not the middleware program that is to blaim, its more the usrdev driver itself. If I do cat /dev/usrdev I get: cat: /dev/usrdev: Operation not permitted Should this happen? I've reinstalled it all twice, and I even disabled devfs in the kernel and that still didn't make a difference. Mick -- Michael D. Curran www: http://redgum.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au/~mdcurran/ msn: mick at jantrid.net