A year? It didn't take me that long to figure out Red Hat. That might be stretching the truth to say it would take someone a year or so to do so. In actuality we are comparing apples to oranges here. Red Hat and Mandrake are Linux systems that attempt to automate everything requiring the end user to know as little as possible about the system. Like windows most people don't want to screw around days on end editing file after configuration file as certain Linux distros want you to do. People like me want to run a simple config tool which makes the changes in a minute or two and it is over. Debian/Slackware systems seam to target the antiwindows/let me do it all for myself croud. The geeks of the world that like customizing everything from the bottem up. You might like doing that, but customizing everything myself down right sucks for me. So I let Red Hat autodetect, autoconfigure stuff, and go on my happy way. On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Luke Davis wrote: > I always thought the same thing. It installed bloated, and "protected" > the user from too much, thus making its workings obscure. > One could of course understand it, if one worked at it, and I did for a > year or so, but why do so if you don't have to? > > Also, I actually had RH distribs that had corrupted installation kernels. > Never had that with another distribution, whether or not it is an > aboration (heard the same from others). > > > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Thomas D. Ward wrote: > > > I'm a little unclear why you would say Red Hat is too complex to understand > > what it does. I suspect since I have used RH from the beginning I understand > > it's inner workings better than a Slack user, but I personally don't find it > > dificult. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Doug Sutherland <wearable at shawcable.com> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:36 AM > > Subject: Re: Slack 9 problems!!! > > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > Slack 9 is awesome ... with the new hotplug support > > > in place it found everything for me ... slack is > > > getting better all the time. I am a slack addict :) > > > Patrick is doing good work. To be honest redhat is > > > too complex to even know what it does IMO ... > > > > > > BTW I tried building a linux sytstem entirely from > > > source www.linuxfromscratch.org ... lots o fun. If > > > you really want to understand linux ... this goes > > > down to the basics ... > > > -- Doug > > > > > > > > > At 01:29 PM 4/9/2003 -0700, you wrote: > > > >On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 11:36:37AM +0200, Doug wrote: > > > > > Thomas, > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, this was vary helpful. > > > > > > > > > > I started on Redhat long ago in the Redhat 5 days, then > > > > > switched to slackware a few years ago. Yes there is a lot > > > > > to learn, but if you persist, slackware is a great system. > > > > > It is great because of its simplicity. That may not seem > > > > > true right now, but it will later if you keep on plugging. > > > > > If you have more slackware questions, feel free to send > > > > > me email directly. I've done so many slackware installs > > > > > I can almost do it in my sleep. > > > > > > > >Yeah and now the 9.0 release was pretty to upgrade in place too. Past > > > >experiences with upgrading in place usually ended up having to be a > > > >complete reinstall but this time, I was able to update the various > > > >packages tweek a few files in /etc and away I go! Sure handy to have > > > >diff around to compare the new files from the upgrade with the > > > >original ones. > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >