Alex, You can use *any* kernel with both Zipspeak and that other install.zip that I mentioned. After you unzip the filesystem on the DOS partition you can copy over any linux kernel you want. So if it doesn't have speakup, or any other thing you need, you can just copy the same kernel that you boot on your regular slackware filesystem, or look in the kernels section ... ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-9.0/kernels/ ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-9.0/kernels/speakup.i/ What I do is this ... when I first unzip install.zip in the DOS partition ... before I actuall boot it, I copy a kernel there ... to /dos/linux ... one that is already working on my machine ... that way I know it will work. Then I add the lines to LILO to point to it ... image = /dos/linux/vmlinuz root = /dev/hda1 label = Linux-UMSDOS read-write It must be set as "read-write" for the UMSDOS file system. Then, whenever I upgrade kernels on my normal root file system, I also copy the kernel over to that DOS filesystem ... that way I always have the same kernel booting regular slackware and in my case the install.zip thing (for rescue purposes). You can of course boot that install.zip or the zipslack from withing a running DOS environment using loadlin ... but I like having it on my LILO menu ... which has these options: 1) Slackware-Linux - Boot full slack9 on ext3 2) DOS-Windows - Boots the NT boot loader on /dev/hda1 which in turn displays a menu to boot DOS or Windows 2000 3) Busybox-Rescue - Boot the small UMSDOS root filesystem (from install.zip) on /dev/hda1 Ever since I started using this install.zip on all machines I never need floppies anymore and rarely use CD-ROMs either. I only need the CD-ROM when setting up a new disk (not for reinstalls and upgrades) ... and I have even figured out how to create an image for a new clean disk using only DD ... by mounting a new drive as slave and copying over all that is needed for DOS, Windows, and Slack ... -- Doug >Thanks for the info. I'll try this. >One question: is the zipslack 9.0 kernel speakup enabled? > >-- >A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up >yours!" >On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Doug wrote: > > > Alex, > > > > > The drive I was thinking of is a 240mb maxtor taken > > > out of a dead 486... > > > > It would make a good rescue disk. Beats using floppies > > or cdrom ... with 240mb you could also install zipslack > > on DOS and get a full minimal slackware system. Then if > > you have trouble with your other drive, you can boot > > from this one and fix stuff on the other drives. I like > > the install.zip because it's small. > > > > ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-9.0/zipslack/README.1st > > > ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-9.0/rootdisks/install.zip.README > > > > The cool thing about the install.zip is that it only > > needs 16MB, so even on a small disk, you can have a > > small DOS partition and always have a rescue disk > > on HDD ... I hate floppies ... I don't like cdroms > > very much either. The more I can do straight from > > HDD or network the better ... > > > > -- Doug > > > > > > >-- > > >A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up > > >yours!" > > >On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Doug wrote: > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > > > > I may install another hdd to completely devote to dos. > > > > > > > > The DOS (FAT16) file system only goes up to 2GB ... > > > > What I do is put a 300MB DOS partition on every machine. > > > > It's wild but those "windows bundles" I spoke of hold > > > > the *entire* windows 2000 install bits in approx 250MB. > > > > They are compressed and they extract. So I wouldn't > > > > devote a whole drive to DOS ... a nice small partition > > > > will do it ... > > > > > > > > -- Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup