Hi: Everything is back to normal. I won't go into the gory details now as I have to be up in 3 hours, but what happened was that a rogue script trashed the bash executable which meant that no-one could login and no scripts could run. I eventually managed to copy bash onto the drive, but this was a difficult process and a couple of things that should have worked, didn't. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang at uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html