Hi Kenny, It was a program for audio output and can't remember the name after it said I needed X to run it. Moreover, it really is not about a particular program since others will follow if a trend develops. -- charlie. On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. What programs are you talking about? More important, what purpose > do theese programs serve? > > Kenny > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 07:19:10AM -0500, ccrawford at acb.org wrote: > > Janina, > > > > I hope this red flag that I have been carrying around turns out to > > be not needed. I would like nothing more than to agree with you. > > > > If the console is not going away, then will the apps be able to be > > run from the console? If so, then I am a happy guy and if not, then my > > concern remains that development will happen for X and leave the consol > > to those who don't mind using older programs and those who still like > > text. > > > > As I say, I am more than happy to agree with you and my only point > > is to emphasize that we need to be vigilant about this and make sure the > > community understands it. There are already programs that will not run at > > the console level and I am hoping that is a fluke rather than a trend. > > Sure, programers can open the source code and re-engineer the program to > > work at the console level, but who will do it? > > > > so the strategy must be to always remind the teams doing X > > development that there are console users who need the access. Some may > > migrate to X just as there are many blind folks who say windows is now as > > accessible as DOS used to be. To some extent that is true, but what > > access there is relies upon a fragil and cost intensive environment. How > > much money are blind folks having to fork out just to keep up with the > > latest rease of whatever? > > > > -- charlie. > > > > > > ps: I hope you are not viewing this as an attack since it is only a > > concern. > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > I really don't know what to say, Charlie. Seems that whatever I say > > > doesn't register, and we comeback around to this same, nonspecific, > > > dread. > > > > > > So, at the risk of revisiting the same discussion as we've had on > > > several occassions in the past on this list: > > > > > > 1.) The console is not going away. > > > 2.) Mozilla includes support for accessibility, both in its Win and > > > Linux/Unix versions. > > > > > > 3.) Gnopernicus will support Mozilla. There's a team of some 12 > > > engineers working specifically on Mozilla accessibility. > > > > > > Charles Crawford writes: > > > > From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford at acb.org> > > > > > > > > Janina, > > > > > > > > I read your message and I felt the shudder of dread that I > > > > remember when windows first became accessible. It's a double edged > > > > sword. I hoep we do not allow the console to go the way DOS did. The only > > > > encouraging thing o that fron that I have heard in a real ong time is the > > > > note the other day about .netserver with text based and command line driven > > > > utilities. > > > > > > > > -- chrlie. > > > > > > > > At 12:23 PM 11/18/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Kenny Hitt writes: > > > > >> From: Kenny Hitt <kennyhitt at knology. > > > > >> I currently have lynx, w3m, and > > > > >> links installed. ... Maybe someone can figure out a way to combine them > > > > >> all into one mega browser. > > > > > > > > > >Well, hold on to your hat. Once we have gnopernicus, we'll be adding > > > > >Mozilla to the list. > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
