Hi all, Yes, Charlie, it would be worth it! Can you talk to Jonathan about it? If Matt Campbell is going to be at CSUN, courtesy of Freedom Box, maybe he could be snagged as well. It would be also worth interviewing the Gnompernicus folks at that time. Me thinks three months will make a difference in their progress as well. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT