Hi all, Chuck is right. It would be helpful to know how you shut down your computer. If you are just turning off the power, no wonder you're having troubles. Here's the drill. Follow it for best results. 1. log in as root or SU. 2. Type: shutdown -h now 3. Wait till Speakup tells you "power down". 4. Then, and only then turn off the power. I think you can find documentation by looking at the man page for shutdown. <smile> Yep, yepper, I just checked, it's most complete. have fun! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT