What should and what is are normally quite different. and in this case they are the people paying you or your work, it is their right to tell you how they expect every aspect of your job to be completed. Rather that be a job for money or some assignment for a grade. My teacher demands that her work be completed in times new roman font with a size of 14 and a color of black, double spaced, and a 1 inch margin, should I just take the steps needed to ensure she gets the work in the formatting she demands or just refuse and waste my time and money? Often we find people who are not going to except our ways of life, we use emacs or pico for composing documents, but if we need to use a specific function of word then having that knowledge can only benefit you. You can never know enough.. No amount of knowledge is enough knowledge.. just my two cents. At 03:14 PM 10/21/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Thomas. Those are good points, however it can't help the fact that >people are just **fucking ignorant!** They don't realize the practicality >of other formats People are so used to their shitty m$ word, they can't >get used to new formats? Well that's there problem! I think that people >should learn about new formats, and not be so ignorant. Especially the >employers who want their stupid exel? Well go out and learn about other >alternatives why don't you! Learn from the employees! Ok I suppose that's >enough ranting for now. > >On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Thomas Ward wrote: > >> Hi, Anne. >> >> I might begin by saying I am well aware of Emacs' abilities. I use it for >> html and xml writing, and it is vary powerful for mark up languages, and for >> C/C++ programming. However, it lacks in one major airea. It has no >> compatibility with MS Word document's, and I will tell you that is a major >> disadvantage for certain groups such as college students. >> >> At our colleges such as Wright State when the English Profs say they want >> an asignment turned in Microsoft Word format they mean it. Turn it in in >> html or something else you will get an F on the asignment. The Offices of >> Disability services at the colleges will say that MS Word is accessible with >> Jaws, and you have no reason for using anything else but using Word, and the >> Prof will give you an F. >> So therefore for this reason, and other reasons we need access to Word >> Processors such as Star Office that has that compatibility. Weather we like, >> love, or hate MS Word we can't bury our head in the sand and say I refuse to >> turn in a resume, class document, whatever in Word format because we simply >> dislike the format. Unless you are willing to take the college or company to >> court and challenge Word format they will turn you down for job posissions, >> give you an F on the asignment, whatever. So that is where I am coming from. >> >> Suppose you wanted a job at our local clenic which uses Microsoft Office. >> Now, can you imagine telling them I refuse to use Word and Excel, and I will >> use emacs and dismal. They'll tell you, "sorry, you don't have the >> qualifications we are looking for, and pass you over for the posission." >> Point being emacs is vary good for personal use, but in cases of college and >> some businesses it is vary inpractical. That's just how things are, and I am >> done giving my speech. I'll step down from the soap box. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ----- Patrick Turnage E-mail: pturnage at tampabay.rr.com AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk Home Page: http://www.access-connect.com