Folks, After posting my rant on the issues I was having, I have some updates here. I looked over the current configuration for lrxms which is the slackware box that is currently acting as a firewall and server. The Debian box I am attempting to configure as my new firewall is zoose. I haven't loooked over the Slackware box's configuration for some time because there was no real reason to do so being as it worked. Now what I stumbled over and had forgotten about is in the slackware box known as lrxms which lives on the lrxms.net domain; has two interface cards. eth0 is my external interface and eth1 internal. What I noticed is in the script that brings up the interface, eth0 I provided the ip address, netmask, broadcast address, and gateway. Now on eth1 I provided the ip address, netmask, broadcast, and no gateway. However, on the Debian box named zoose, it has in the /etc/network/interfaces file for eth0 and eth1 the ip addresses for the corrisponding interfaces as well as the netmask, broadcast address for both, and gateway addresses for both. I wonder if this could very well be my problem. I didn't attempt to add a gateway address to lrxms and thought perhaps if I remove that from zoose it'll work. I'll give that a try, but I was curious about the route output from zoose. I don't know what made me name a box as my domain name, but well aside from that odd thought, I thought the route output was most curious. this is the route output from zoose when I removed lrxms from the network and put zoose in its place. Zoose at this point was to be acting as the firewall for my domain/network. Here is what it said and I'd love to know where it got the name for lrxms when its name is zoose. This output came directly after I brought up the box and prior to me running the firewall which by the way I did not use for any of these tests. Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 66.92.147.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 eth0 66.92.147.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 66.92.147.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 Now I was getting connection time out messages from named and ncftp. I then tried forcing the route to eth0 as a default gateway. This probably only added to the mess, but here is what I got from route after doing this. Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 66.92.147.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 eth0 66.92.147.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 66.92.147.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 Now one final note. When I have lrxms back in its working position, I ran the route command and here is wht I got. Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default gw-081-147.dsl. 0.0.0.0 UG 1 0 0 eth0 Now that certainly looks different from any of the above and it obviously is correct. SO, this must mean then there's a route problem with zoose and so any thoughts would be very much appreciated. I thought at the very least I could go somewhere using ncftp and an ip address, but get the famous no route to host error message from ncftp. Btw, I did find the ping problem at least for lrxms, it seems that I must be blocking outbound pings, but for the life of me can't find this in the ipchains script. Any assistance/advice greatfully accepted and appreciated. I'll keep looking into to this as I go along and am confident I'll resolve these issues somehow. Scott