Well ok, so I lied, I can get streams to play, and in fact there are some streams that play perfectly, but most of them seem to cause mplayer to crash. They start playing for about a second, then pause for about 2 seconds as if there's lag or network congestion, then play for about 3 seconds and then mplayer simply hangs. It's weird, it happens with asf and asx streams, not sure why this should be, especially since a small proportion play without a hitch. Any suggestions? Is it something to do with the streams themselves? Cheers. p.s. Even the BBC has started using them now, though there's plays perfectly. -- Toby Fisher Email: toby at gw0ucu.plus.com Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239 ICQ: #61744808 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html