When I do "strace hwclock --systohc" I get a continuous output of trace messages that have to be interrupted eventually with control-C. I have no idea what they mean, except the fact that they continuous means that the clock utility is not hanging, it is looping. I give up!! Back to the abacus! -- The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (81% of Full) So visit me at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck