Hi, I had a similar problem a while ago. what I ended up doing was catting the contents of my emty $HOME/mail/saved-messages to /var/spool/mail/username where username is the user account that receives yer mail. that had the folder structure that pine recognizes and I was able to read new mail from then on. hth -- Shaun Oliver It's multiple choice time... What is FORTRAN? a: Between thre and fiv tran. b: What two computers engage in before they interface. c: Ridiculous.