Well, now I tried copying a file from a: to c: and then, since I still don't have speech, doing a dir of c: and redirecting it to a file I can look at on my other computer. I still got volume in drive C has no label I hope I don't have a defective C drive or something but it appears to be active when I boot without a floppy. I wonder if there is a way I can run msd (I assume I'd have to copy the apropriate files to a floppy) and get it to do a full report all redirected to a file. I seem to remember this can be done but I'd have to be able to do it without a lot of maneuvering since I don't have speech. An msd if it reported on the hard drive, would tell me how much space was taken on the hard drive, etc. Cheryl
