Charlie, I don't have as much trouble with your sentence as I do with your pronouns. Who be those "they" that you refer to. I can't tell who's who in your mind. On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Charles Crawford wrote: > they use alot of hacks to get the access. The problem with that approach > is that it only deals with a particular situation rather than estanlishing > something a screen reader can query and get an answer to in many > situations. What a horrable sentence. Sorry, in a rush. > > -- charlie Crawford. > At 01:38 PM 6/14/02 -0400, you wrote: > >freedom scientific does use msaa more and more. It is just not the core > >of their activity since they already had a good modem. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com> > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > >Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Mozilla > > > > > >Hi. Well what Greg said makes sense. Unless Freedom science fiction > >decided to make their own variation of msaa, which I think is highly > >unlikely. > > > >Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. > >I'm sick of Winblows! > >On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > > > I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romualt.dhs.org> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:12 PM > > > Subject: Re: Mozilla > > > > > > > > > Since window-eyes already supports anything with msaa, I think > >gw-micro > > > is covered for netscape support if it indeed contains msaa. > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:51:03AM -0400, Whitley GS11 Cecil H wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I hesitate to even mention this because I don't want to start > >another > > > > battle. However, I feel that there is a segment of this community > > > that this > > > > effects and who will be interested. Yesterday in my wanderings (I > >was > > > > checking out the latest status of Gnome) I ran across some very > > > interesting > > > > information. Mozilla currently supports MSAA on the Windows > >platform. > > > > Since the VP of development for Freedom Scientific had testified in > > > April > > > > that Netscape does not support accessability I found it curious to > >say > > > the > > > > least that Netscape uses Mozilla's technology in it's latest browser > > > and > > > > therefore supports both MSAA and DOM. > > > > > > > > Okay, what's my point? Simply this, I wrote > > > > suggestions at freedomscientific.com and requested that they support > > > Mozilla on > > > > the Windows platform given that the Mozilla developers are suporting > > > > accessability in their product. I indicated that I felt their > >company > > > > should suport Mozilla at least as well as they suport Internet > > > Explorer > > > > given that it provides more choice for the visually impaired > > > community. I > > > > know that some of the users on this list would benefit from > >experience > > > with > > > > Mozilla on windows so that they are "up to speed" on it once it is > > > available > > > > under Gnome. So with that said, I would like to request that if you > > > are a > > > > jaws user (or any other windows screen reader for that matter) that > > > you let > > > > your voice be heard by your respective vendor. > > > > > > > > I realize that lynx and links won't go away simply because a GUI is > > > > available, however much of the point of Mozilla is it's ability to > >be > > > > imbedded within apps. Feedback from the community as a whole would > >be > > > > benificial to insure that the product is as accessable as possible > >for > > > those > > > > who will "have" to use it. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Cecil > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org