Hi all, Don't think we need to be that impatient with people. ZJohn, I think Gena answered most of your questions, in so far as they were asked. You asked general questions, questions which to most of us are very basic. Now, let me ask you some questions. What did you read on the speakup site, and what if anything did you gather from it? What didn't you understand? Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT