Hi again Teddy, This thread really isn't accomplishing anything other than irratating people who really don't care about the world of microsoft. Therefore, I have to make this my last post on the subject. Now, with that said I must take this opportunity to acquaint you with a little history you apparently are not aware of. DOS was a command line, just like Linux. It had a lot less power and no built-in networking. Basically, everything for DOS was a "add-on". Then came windows. For several years (about four I believe) there were no screen readers. It took another four before M.S. even deigned to talk with providers of access technology and provide them "hooks" within the windows GUI. You have come to this product six years after that. That's a total of fourteen years (not counting the dos years, which we actually should). Linux celebrated it's tenth year last August. If you've got to b*tch, do it in four more years. But to be fair, you really should wait nine! The "help" command wasn't available in dos until dos version 5. As far as I know man has been in Linux the entire time. DOS "howto" books tended to be exactly that, books (that you had to "buy"). Linux howto's are available for the d/l, if you've got access to the internet and I believe they are also available on CD that you can also "buy". Appears to me to be at least "one up" on DOS. In short, microsoft and it's "os's" (and I use the term very loosely) don't have a wonderfull track record either. They haven't always been the way you find them today. Now to the other underlying issue here. Apparently you define "help" as someone doing/thinking/deciding for you. Others do not hold that view. They prefer to "help" by pointing you to the resources that will allow you to learn/think/decide for yourself. They are not going to change. They are not going to "do" for you since they wish you to become capable of doing for yourself. The balance in this equation is that if you learn to help yourself you will also learn to help others in the same way. I am not intending this as any sort of "slam", my only intent is to point out what I see as a "philosophical" difference between you and others on this list. Most likely this philosophical difference is what made the Linux users on this list Linux users. Best of luck, Cecil
