Yes, you can use pine with Emacspeak. I know because I do it. Here is how it is done. Use M-x to open the command and type term. EEterm will ask for a shell type. The default is /bin/bash. Now type pine, press an i to open an inbox. If you press enter pine will open your first message To read it use a c-e b and Emacspeak will read it. To go back to the previous message use the letter p or the letter n to advance to the next message in the list. The letter d marks the message for deletion. If you wish to create a new message use the letter see from anywhere in the inbox, and Emacspeak reads the message creation just fine. I've not had any problems with this. so the idea that it is impossible to use pine is simply not correct. It just takes some getting use to. Lynx works ok with Emacspeak 16 as well. Just to make sure number_links options is active in your lynx.conf file so Emacspeak tells you which link you are on.