Yeah lots of it was in rom, but not enough to boot without a disk with software on it. Thats why there wasn't any screen reader for those machines, just talking programs. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jwantz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:18 AM Subject: Re: OLD DAYS > Hi, > Well, I believe that a fair portion of the Apple 2e's operating system > was in ROM. For sure, all of the Commodore 64's operating system was in > ROM. It was actually mapped on top of useful RAM. You had to do > something called banked switching if you wanted to use it. Each bank > was 8K. Alex, I have a passionate hatred of the Echo synthesizer voice! > > Jim Wantz WB0TFK > On > Tue, 21 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote: > > > Those old apple IIs are certainly lasting pretty long. We got a couple at > > school that actually still boot, even after all those paperclips and gum > > we've thrown in them when we're board just to see what happens. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:55 AM > > Subject: Re: OLD DAYS > > > > > > > Cecil: > > > > > > >From one point of view it may be sad that the U.S. Navy would > > > still be using paper tape in some places. But, from another > > > vantage point, it's remarkable and speaks volumes. Can you image > > > our friends in Redmont building systems that would still chug > > > along cruncing away happily after 30 or 40 years? Heck, after 30 > > > years of M$ upgrades, you wouldn't be able to read all that > > > ancient data anymore with the proprietary OS. > > > > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Cecil H. Whitley wrote: > > > > > > > hI, > > > > i REMEMBER bitnET AND RELAY (RAN ON TOP OF RSCS). i ALSO REMEMBER PAPER > > > > TAPE AND PUNCH CARDS. sAD PART ABOUT THAT IS THAT THE nAVY IS PROBABLY > > > > STILL USING PAPER TAPE IN PLACES. > > > > > > > > cECIL > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >