Be fare toby, bash accepts both del and control-h as backspace char, other applications do not. The vast majority of terminal packages do in fact send ^H or ^? when backspace is hit. The usual default is also an audible bell. I don't know why screen defaults to a visual one but the first thing I do when running anew screen installation is put vbell off and startup_message off in ~/screenrc If he is running jfw and eloquence and his so und card doesn't mix; (This is a new feature in wdm drivers or special drivers for win95 and is not supported with all cards) he won't hear the bell if eloquence talks at the same time. On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:44:58PM +0100, Toby Fisher wrote: > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > <snip> > > > Do you know how to tell without speech whether or not you're at a > > command line prompt? If you press back space and the speaker > > beeps, you're there. If not, you aren't. > > Hmmm, this is true, but once again, this may not work in a telnet session > if your terminal isn't set right, quite likely under Winblows, but at > least there you'll have your Winblows speech to help you. > > > Of course, if you've typed something on the command line, > you'll > have to press back space that many times to erase what you've > > typed first. But, once you've erased the command line, you will > > get a beep from the speaker when you press backspace. > Again, if the telnet client's terminal is broken, this functionality could > also be absent. > > <snip> > > -- > Toby Fisher Email: toby at g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk > Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239 > ICQ: #61744808 > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Kerry Hoath: kerry at gotss.net kerry at gotss.eu.org or kerry at gotss.spice.net.au ICQ: 8226547 msn: kerry at gotss.net Yahoo: kerryhoath at yahoo.com.au