Hi all, Will you stop saying that! You don't need a "real screen reader" when you use emacs. the speech output system works just fine. If you understood better I would tell you why. Trust us! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT