Hi Deedra, remember memory management? Getting a dos machine networked with speech was anything but simple. Function for function Linux isn't any worse. I believe where you are seeing complexity is in the fact that there are many more functions available. I don't think linux is any worse than dos for the functions that were supported by dos. I.e. word processing, terminal emulation, email, what else did we use dos for??? BTW, for the games question, nethack is available and configured correctly it uses curses in text mode. I think adom is also available for linux. The omega source code is out there as well. Get the idea that i'm into the d&d style games? I've also got c source code for a lot of the "bbs doors" programs from circa 1985-88, but they're on 5 1/4" and I no longer have a drive to read them with.... Lot of good that does eh? Regards, Cecil