Do as you will, certainly. I choose to leave it in because my experience suggests that learning good habits pays off. There's nothing to be lost from adding the Ctrl today, and everythuing to be gained. On the other hand, we know that Alt is limited already. If you're leaving a X session--because you got your install wrong and are in runlevel 5, you won't get out without the Ctrl. That's the fact today. I'm sure Greg will be unconfused soon enough. On Mon, 20 May 2002, Deedra Waters wrote: > Janina, maybe we should leave gnopernicus out of this for now? You make > it sound like this will be a great thing, and who knows, maybe it will, > but the problem I'm seeing with that right now is 1, we don't have any > info on it, and 2 your comment about control and alt keys has apparrently > confused someone > > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > No, Greg, leave the Ctrl key in. Read the rest of my note to > > understand why. You'll thank me after you get Gnopernicus. > > > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > > This is correct, however, drop the ctrl key. > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:43:49PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > > > > > > > Q: How to become root in another console? > > > > > > > > Use Ctrl-Alt-FX (where X is a number 1 to 6) meaning use the > > > > function keys on the top row of the qwerty keyboard. You know > > > > what function keys are, right? > > > > > > > > Use this key cvombination to go to a console where you are not > > > > logged in and login as root. > > > > > > > > Alternatively, I believe you wrote the other day that you telnet > > > > to your linux machine from your Windows machine? Well, if emacs > > > > seems to go bad on you, go to your Windows machine and open a > > > > telnet session to your Linux machine. Just because emacs isn't > > > > talking doesn't mean your machine is dead. > > > > > > > > If you're already logged in via telnet from Windows as whatever > > > > you use for your username, type: > > > > > > > > su - > > > > > > > > and provide the root password. > > > > > > > > Actually, there's no reason not to open several telnet sessions > > > > from your Windows machine. Your Windows is capable of that, isn't > > > > it? > > > > > Q: How can I read the screen if emacspeak is not speaking? I want to find > > > > > out the PID of the process I should kill. > > > > > > > > > In a different console or a different telnet session. You can > > > > open more than one at a time, you know. This is Linux, not > > > > Windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org
