On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > Ok, I don't want to learn Emacspeak at all. > I would like to be able to use a real screen reader but unfortunately it is > not possible without a hardware sinthesizer which is expensive. > I have one, but it is not supported by a real screen reader. > > I would like to have a screen reader that starts at startup, which can be > used to read the screen in pine, pico, lynx, and the command line. > Is this possible without a hardware sinthesizer? > Am I asking too much from the best OS? > > Teddy, > orasnita at home.ro > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:46 AM > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > This is not an important problem. You have more important things > to worry about than this. > > Also, using emacs' terminal mode is probably not the smartest way > to learn about emacs. > > If you're trying to learn emacs, you shouldn't start with that. > You're trying to run, and you haven't even learned how to crawl > yet. > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > Of course, because that problem happend me for more times. > > > > I think I found a little problem but I am not sure. > > > > When it starts, emacspeak tell me that message that it is functioning > > normally (BTW. How can I change that message?) and I don't care about > that > > message and I start pressing the normal shortcuts for launching the > terminal > > mode before it finishes the message. When I do that, the terminal doesn't > > start. > > If I let emacspeak to finish its message, I can start it. > > > > How can I stop the voice? What key should I press if I want to stop the > > message? > > I searched in the help file but I couldn't find it. > > Teddy, > > orasnita at home.ro > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:42 AM > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > Octavian: You need to explain yourself. > > > > What is the meaning of "of course" in your message? > > > > What's that about? > > > > Also, why are you rebooting? That's your hangover from Windows. > > > > Get a clue. That's not the way to get out of trouble. > > > > Your emacs is probably working just fine, and you can probably > > get back to your buffer list with c-x c-b > > > > Now, instead of whining at the first sign of trouble, why not > > study how to use the program a bit? Have you read the tutorials? > > What can you succeed with? Or, did you just come here to say: > > > > "of course" > > > > to us. > > > > I won't accept that. Not from you, not from anyone. > > > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > > > I press the keys for launching the terminal mode under Emacspeak, I > type > > a > > > simple ls command to test it, I won't hear anything of course, then the > > > computer stopped speaking, and I need to reboot it. > > > IS Emacspeak the problem? Is IBM Via Voice stopping? > > > I don't know. > > > Thank you for putting me to learn. <gee> > > > Do you have a link to a text file with all the command lines used by > > > emacspeak? > > > I've tried that help, but I couldn't find how to set the speed of voice > > > sinthesizer faster, nor how to read a text at once, not line by line. > > > I also would like to know how can I skip the text when I read this way. > > > > > > In Windows, I can put the screen reader to read in "say all" mode and if > I > > > press the right shift, it skips a line and continue reading without > > > stopping. > > > If I press the left shift, it goes back with a line and continue reading > > > without stopping. > > > > > > This is a good feature and I am sure it should be in Emacspeak also. > > > However, I couldn't find it. > > > > > > I would also like to know if there is a kind of control panel for > > emacspeak, > > > where I can set all the variables, a configuration file, etc. > > > Emacspeak starts with a text file which is not too big and I should read > a > > > lot of things before finding how to set the sinthesizer faster. > > > And I don't have the patience to listen how slowly it speaks. > > > > > > Teddy, > > > orasnita at home.ro > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 6:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > > > > No joke. Emacs is easier than Windows. > > > > > > Now, Octavian, stop belly aching and go learn how to do > > > something. > > > > > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > > > > > Do you mean that using Emacspeak is easier than using Windows? > > > > Nice joke. Really. > > > > And ... without a hardware sinthesizer, with that IBM Via Voice that > > likes > > > > to crash so often, or other software sinthesizers hard to understand, > > ... > > > > Teddy, > > > > orasnita at home.ro > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp at eznet.net> > > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:53 PM > > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Why don't you try Emacspeak and quit yawping! There *is* a speech > > > > output system that uses software speech. > > > > > > > > Ann P. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ann K. Parsons > > > > email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 > > > > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > > > > "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are > lost." > > > > JRRT > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org
