No, you haven't offended me. I just like to answer the questions other listers put. If someone wants to filter my messages, I have no problem. After my posts, I usually make a lot of enemies but a lot of friends also. I have a lot of enemies because a lot of people don't like to hear the other opinions if they don't fit theirs. For example, if I say, "What? Rolling Stones? It's a bullshit. I don't like it," some people that like Rolling Stones will hate me for that, but I've just told my opinions. Of course, I won't use bad words because I don't like it either. I haven't said that Linux is not a good OS. It is a great OS, and I want to learn it, but most people don't want to accept that maybe others can't learn from a manual. A lot of people don't want to accept that maybe others are not connected to internet all the time, and it is not very simple to click on a link while their are working offline. A lot of people tell that you don't need to be a specialist in Linux to use it at its full potential, but I don't think this is true. I am not a specialist in Windows either, but I can use it very well. I can make some considered advanced settings using the registry, install and uninstall some devices that are not plug and play, etc, but I am not an advanced user, and I haven't read any manual for Windows. Well, I want to be able to use Linux just like I use Windows, without being a specialist, without reading a lot of manuals, without learning weeks or months how to make some settings that I will need to use only once in 3 years, etc. Is this possible? Please advice how. Teddy, orasnita at home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Barnes" <edbarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. Hi ther buddy, I think something's strange there but I don't think we'll agree on what's so strange, one hint, it has nothing to do with 20 letter commands vs shift f10 and check boxes. Octavian I am relatively new to Linux myself so can understand the fact that there are growing pains, remember that Linux is like anything else you try, it takes time to learn and perfect your skill and you will get out of Linux what you put into learning about it. So, it seems you've taken alot but you've not given much with regard to the amount of effort you've expended. Don't know about any other listers here but if you are going to continually send messages making excuses for this and or that to the list and not contribute in any other way other than to complain my next project as a relative Linux newbie will be learning procmail and you Octavian will be filter #1. Hope I've not offended anyone with this note including you Octavion and if I have I'm sorry, the reality in my case is that I'm someone who tells things as I see them and if someone doesn't lime me or what I've said as a rsult I can live with that. On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > Is it harder to remember a space bar than a command line with 20 characters? > Something's strange here. > Teddy, > orasnita at home.ro > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:25 AM > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > Spacebar? Shift F10? Man, how can you remember all that stuff? > > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Shaun Oliver wrote: > > > SNIP > > > > You open a window, and it explains you what you should do there. > > > > You have to press the space bar to check some checkboxes, to press > some > > > > buttons, etc, and if you don't know something, press shift+f10 (or the > right > > > > mouse button and choose "what's this?" or press F1 to view the help > file > > > > wich is much much more easier to navigate than the man pages under > Linux. > > SNIP > > > > A fake. > > man pages under GNU/Linux are a lot easier to navigate than windows help > > pages. > > you need to route the jaws cursor to the pc and then fart around trying to > > find what you were looking for. > > even with the new features in jfw I seriously doubt you could navigate a > > help file easier than a man page.. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup