Use google to find them.:p On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > Are these programs free? Do you have a web site address where I can > download them? > > Thanks. > Teddy, > orasnita at home.ro > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > Alex: > > There's both ecasound and sox, and they're both very powerful. > But, they work very differetnly from Sound Forge and Cool Edit. > Also, their documentation is not professionally written, even > though it is professional quality software. > > In the realm of sound creation, there's the very classic Csound > available for linux. This is the grand old synthesis ware that > has been the bread and butter of major electronic music research > facilities like carma at Stanford and Earcom in Paris. > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote: > > > Is there any console based audio editors that work under linux? I've seen > > one listed on the speakup projects page, but it said that it was on hold > > because there were alternate solutions out there. What are those > alternate > > solutions? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc at MIT.EDU> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:08 AM > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > > Yes, I must second on the music stuff. The only reason I use windows and > > > Jaws is that it gives me access to cakeWalk, a very powerful (and mostly > > > accessible) music sequencing and audio editing environment. Writing such > a > > > beast is very difficult, nontrivial, very f*cking hard, and takes many > > human > > > years to accomplish. > > > To be fair, some of this difficulty may have to do with its reliance on > > > Windows and its very ugly GUI programming (yes, its as ugly to develope > > > under as it is to use), and some of the complexity may have to do with > its > > > ability to deal with music notation, but its still a nontrivial task to > > > write such a beast. My feeling is that a console based sequencing and > > audio > > > package like cakeWalk won't ever be created, because sighted people want > > to > > > use a GUI. When gnome comes on-line for us, we may have more options in > > this > > > regard. I've heard of mixers and effects processors which are x-windows > > > based, but I'm not sure how well they work. I think there is a sequencer > > or > > > two as well for the X environment. The question is, are any of these as > > good > > > as cakeWalk? CakeWalk is a professional quality product in every way. > The > > > only thing nonprofessional about it is Windows! > > > > > > There is someone (Frank Carmichael, I believe) who has been working on > the > > > audio piece of this, so maybe he can chime in on this and tell me how > > *wrong > > > I am*! <smile> > > > > > > There is no way to create music the way I do without this program! It > sux, > > > but its unfortunately the case. > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita at home.ro> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: 18 May, 2002 8:37 PM > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > > > > Are there any games accessible for the blind under Linux, like under > > > Windows? > > > Please tell me some web addresses. > > > Are there any good sound editing programs for Linux, like Sound Forge, > > Cool > > > Edit, Gold Wave, etc, and programs for creating MIDI music, like Cake > > Walk? > > > > > > Is there a text editor, that has macro features, Regular expressions, > the > > > ability to save in Windows/Mac/Unix format, etc? > > > > > > ... Just a few things that camed to mind. > > > > > > A lot of things are accessible, but ... harder to learn, harder to > > configure > > > and harder to use, if I am not so bright to remember 1000 command line > > > parameters. > > > > > > Thank you for the links. > > > Teddy, > > > orasnita at home.ro > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:59 PM > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 18 May 2002, Darrell Shandrow wrote: > > > > I just wish Linux were > > > > a more viable general purpose workstation; I use Windows for that > > purpose. > > > > > > > Hi, Darrell: > > > > > > Just wondering what you think is missing from Linux' desktop > > > applications. > > > > > > In case this sounds loaded, it might be. The underlying question > > > might be: Is it your knowledge deficit, or is it Linux itself? > > > For my own experience in this matter, I've found it's my > > > knowledge deficit almost without exception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >