My last message assumed something that should probably not be assumed. You need to know how to change consoles. By default, you have six that you can have different identities in. For example, you can be your ordinary username in consoles 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6, but be root in console 2. Use Ctrl-Alt plus the first six function keys to switch consoles. In other words, Ctrl-Alt-F1 (meaning the function key labeled f1 to the right of Esc) will take you to console 1, Ctrl-Alt-F2 will take you to the second console, etc. PS: I give these instructions with Ctrl, because that's what we should start getting used to. People who've been doing this with just Alt should know that they'll have to add the Ctrl in order to get out of X, and Gnopernicus is coming, so it's time to get ready. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org