I'm a little wary of that .net crap. I don't think that apps should share so much information over the internet. This can help promote spyware. Has anyone looked at kazaa lately? That's about 99.9% spyware. There's a lot of spyware on winblows systems, and I think winblows is spyware itself! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:05 AM Subject: Why Windows? > OK, I think windows exists for sighted people. I think that blind people > need to use windows if they are doing sys-admin or other tasks which require > them to interact with windows, or dare I say, help a sighted person use > their friendly little crash-prone boxes! <smile> I often think that the > reason windows is so unstable is to keep us sys-admins employed! > Hehehehehahahahe! > > Actually, I heard an interesting windblows tidbit the other day. In windows > 3.1, there was a concept called Object Linking and Embeding (OLE). It allows > one to put, say, a sound file within a spreadsheet, and embed all that > within something else. In fact, this is what XML does for you, but those > were the days long before XML. Anyhow, they were also the days before the > internet became widely popular. The problem was that OLE was not at all > secure. When the internet became more widely used, and malware began to > spread, people realized that this stuff was very insecure. So Microsoft > began building layer on top of layer to try and address these issues. By the > time the security problems were becomign more widely exployted, Microsoft > had traveled too far down the OLE path, and could not give it up. I forget > what all the crap on top of OLE was called, but the dot net stuff is merely > another layer on top of the broken OLE, so Microsoft security issues will > forever be rearing their ugly heads, and Microslop will have to patch every > single one of them!! Hahahahehehehehehaha! > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deedra Waters" <curi0315 at tampabay.rr.com> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: 19 May, 2002 1:24 AM > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > I think honestly that if beginners have an easy start it may help some in > the long run. I honestly think that there are some people who want to > learn but are having a hard time in which case, helping them can be > useful. > > I'm bad at sitting and reading manpage after manpage trying to find > things, and I was even worse at the beginning. I had a great deal of help > in the beginning, and there was a lot I didn't understand. > > I'm not really sure where I'm going with this accept to say that there are > people who have a real hard time by just reading, and helping them, or > trying to walk them threw some things doesn't always mean that they need > to be spoonfead > > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Toby Fisher wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > > > Hi, thank you. > > > No, I don't like Windows. I don't use to play games because I don't have > the > > > time. > > > > Oh now you don't know what you're missing, I can recommend GMA Games for > > one, for a bit of light relief. > > > > <snip> > > > > > But I also don't like to see a lot of people from this list, nor > > from any > > > list, thinking that Linux is better than Windows. > > > > Actually, if you look carefully at most of what you view to be > > anti-Windows comments, they are, in the main, aimed at the company that > > spawned it. > > > > > Windows is better than Linux for multimedia development but Macintosh is > > > even better than Windows for this thing. > > > > > > Some Unix graphic stations are better probably than Macintosh for their > > > purpose. > > > > Yes, but until very recently Macintosh had a problem with expensive > > hardware, for example, on some power macs there was only 1 make of modem > > you could use because of the connection it required; guess what, they're > > not made any more so my friend is going to have to buy a new computer, > > this is, imho, a potential problem which can arise when hardware and > > software are made by the same company, as used to happen back in the big > > mainframe days. > > > > <snip> > > > > > I like the Linux users to be a kind of helpful community, because > > they are > > > not very many, especially blind, but all the experimented people in > linux > > > give the beginners criptical commands without explaining too much, RTFM, > > > etc. > > > > I believe that there are reasons for this. > > > > First, what that person may want is a means to get up and running as > > hasle-free as possible. Second, explanation of the command may, and note > > I use the word may, cause confusion, until the person has read some docs, > > which they may be unable to do due to whatever problem it is that has > > caused them to write to the list. > > > > Third, it does not help anyone, least of all the beginner, if they are > > spoon-fed, as they may then be unable to help themselves if they are ever > > stuck without an internet connection, or otherwise unable to call on > > required assistance. > > > > Cheers. > > > > -- > > Toby Fisher Email: toby at g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk > > Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239 > > ICQ: #61744808 > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >