hi. I just tryed to use dd to see if in fact it would copy my jfw authorization disk and, as expected, it wouldn't. here's my output from dd to aid some poor unfortunate that still may want to persue this activity. captain-nemo at borg:~$ dd if=/dev/fd0 of=auth.img end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2870 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2874 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2876 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2878 end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2870 dd: /dev/fd0: Input/output error 2864+0 records in 2864+0 records out captain-nemo at borg:~$ hth Shaun.