Hi all, No, Janina, I have just discovered that I can't use both in the same console cuz they will doublespeak, at least that's what Matt told me. I have never attempted to find out what might happen. I can use speakup fine in other consoles, but not in the one with emacspeak. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT