I guess I forgot about using a mouse pointer to select text. What I was also wondering about is how would a person copy to a central clipboard? For example you have pine open and copy a snippet of text and want to paste it into a totally separate program. nano, emacs, vi, or something else. They wouldn't all have the same paste command and they would probably not be able to access the clip board memory that was originally used in the program you cut it from. Is that what that GPM does? Since SpeakUp has that really cool copy/paste feature, I'm not too concerned about the issue. I was just curious to know how my sighted counterparts would handle the same thing. from Keith H. --- You Wrote --- > Without speakup, a sighted person would probably use the mouse to > cut and paste. "gpm" is a general purpose mouse program for text > consoles designed to do just that.