First of all, there is a lot more to learn in CS than there was even 10 years ago. There is only so much that can be fit in into a four year degree. Since Java is a heavily used language, it is tought. So is C/C++ in Unix and Windows, but most students are tought on the Windows platform first because the professors can focus on programming rather than teaching an OS that students aren't familiar with. I'm not even going to get into the debate about whether Windows or Unix is better because its pointless. I use both and find that each has something to offer. Perhaps when we've gone byond the bickering, we can come together and make something that is better than either. Second, what was your code quality like when you first started programming? I'd bet it was horse sh*t. But, for some reason, you seem to be the one claiming to know everything. I'm just trying to learn using the resources available to me. Just wait until you loose your job and find that you have to relearn everything from the ground up. My dad has been a programmer for 20 years. He started on mainframes, then worked with the really big stuff at Cray, then got canned and had to start over learning Java for his new job doing web stuff. So, get off your high horse and come down to the ground with the rest of us. Perhaps when we get past this we can actually move onto something constructive. Also, read your mail before you post. You appear to actually know what is going on that way... Chris Peterson _______________ The Space Report Internet and satellite delivered news from space. Visit our web site at www.TheSpaceReport.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <speakup-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:22 AM Subject: Speakup digest, Vol 1 #1294 - 14 msgs > Send Speakup mailing list submissions to > speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > speakup-request at braille.uwo.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Speakup digest..." > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: linux audio (Toby Fisher) > 2. Re: seeking opinions on debian install (Ann Parsons) > 3. Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a > page from Napster (Ann Parsons) > 4. Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a > page from Napster (Ann Parsons) > 5. Re: Off List Re: list noise (Keith Heltsley) > 6. Computer Science (jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov) > 7. Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a > page from Napster (Amanda Lee) > 8. Re: Computer Science (Amanda Lee) > 9. RE: list noise (was Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a page from Napster) (Dawes, Stephen) > 10. Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a > page from Napster (Janina Sajka) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >