Hi all, I did that very thing, Mr. Petersen, and I believe that we may be getting somewhere. If my complaints are too loud for you, I'm sorry. You see, I happen to believe strongly that no matter what one does to aid persons with disabilities, the primary directive should be Universal Access. This means that when you start a project, you build it so that it is accessible to all from the get-go, not a project that needs to be retro-fitted. Retro-fitting has been the way of making materials, buildings, transportation and everything else accessible. It's time it stopped, frankly, stopped now! We have to think in terms of *all* users, not just the fortunate few, all users, that includes every single person who might want to access whatever the heck it is. If I am disappointed in something, I say so. I believe that Bookshare is making an effort to remedy the problem, and having the discussion on here is right because it involves access to something via Linux. <smile> What better place to find programmers for Linux than on a Linux list? What better place to find programmers for making something accessible than on a list devoted to accessibility of the Linux system to persons who are blind? Ann P. P.S., It may interest you to know that I thought Janina was writing to me privately last night. That's how come I was so frank in my post. <smile> Seems my mail blooper started a whopping discussion, though. So, I have continued it. A.P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT