Hi Janina, Well, I found that it was virtually impossible to get at the site during the beta. I found that the application was only a long, long, long, long, long agreement with several check boxes, but there was no place to add an address, a name of anything else! I haven't been back there because it says on the top of the page that "this site is for users of MSIE5.5 or above." I just didn't bother. I figured that there was nothing I could do. My Windows computer has been down for two months, and I want so much to download books and to join, but what can I do? I have some books here I've scanned that I might conceivably want to upload there, but nobody deigned to say anything to me. I'm on the beta list. Nobody bothered to talk to me at all, find out *why* I was unhappy with the site, or what I was experiencing. In fact, they just about ignored me cuz I use Linux. It was made very, very, very, very, very, very clear that I was just chopped liver and so I haven't bothered to even try to access the site in Lynx. I figured that it would be virtually impossible, so I've been waiting for my Windows machine to get fixed, and now I discover I have to wait more time! Janina, I hate Windows, but I want to join Bookshare`! I want to download books! It won't do me any good to go there anyway in Lynx cuz the unpack tool is for Windows, or didn't you realize that? Sure they're looking for somebody to write their program for Linux because they've finally awakened to the fact that maybe somebody ought to pay attention to another OS. But what's the good of writing an unpack tool for Linux when the site is "only for MSIE5.5 or above"? I mean if you're going to be *that* exclusive, what's the good, Janina? What about people who only have MSIE4 or Netscape or PW-Webspeak or IBM web reader? What about those peopoe, huh? Do they know how snooty and exclusive that phrase sounds? Do they realize how it looks? Haven't we had enough of being shut out? If my Windows machine isn't up yet, and if I only have Linux, then downloading an unpack tool for Windows isn't going to do me a hoot in Hell. Maybe that's why everybody has been ignoring me, eh? I'm sorry, Janina, but you asked me, and I'm telling you. I feel shut out, ignored, and thrown away. The site is for "MSIE5.5 or later", it says so right on the page, damn it!!! It's supposed to be for the blind. It's supposed to be so that we can access books! It's supposed to be a tool to help us, and it's just another fanthom, supposedly accessible but only if you have the right equipment. <sigh> What about people who use W3, what about them? What about people who have shell accounts, there are some, you know. They're limited to Lynx. I'm sorry, Janina, but I'm disgusted and feeling angry and really quite upset. I didn't realize how upset I was till you asked me how I was doing. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT