Very true. I just wrote my first little sample program last night, and I did make a few errors, and it told me what I'd done. Other languages like jfw script do the same. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jwantz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: free programming language > Hi Ron, > I don't understand what you are saying. About an IDE. How does an IDE > change the underlying language? A nice thing about a good IDE is that > it has all of the advantages of an interpreted language with none of the > drawbacks. You get almost immediate notification of errors along in > some cases the ability to get detailed explanations of the errors. > On Sun, > 10 Mar 2002, Ron Marriage wrote: > > > Having taught programming languages for over 30 years, I > > figure to weigh in with my own 2 cents. > > > > First off, if you don't know a programming language now, > > forget about the compilers, IDEs, etc. > > You don't want to learn an IDE you want to know how to > > program. The skills that you learn will transfer to most > > other languages. > > > > Basic is available in many flavors, pick one, so it's > > interpreted, why should you care. Believe it or not you > > won't develope the newest MS office suite with it or with > > any language you start out with. > > > > What you can learn though even with an interpreted language > > is logic, methodology, and a background that will carry over > > to more advanced languages, where you will have the chance > > of doing something worthwhile. > > > > Tie yourself to an IDE now and you won't learn programming > > ever. You also won't develope anything more than what you > > can do by pushing buttons. An IDE is good only after you > > learn how to program. > > > > Get basic, play with it a while, then try C or some other > > higher language. > > > > Lots of languages out there and most work great for specific > > things. Not eveything is done in C. > > > > After you have some basic skills, decide what it is that you > > want to do. You might realize then that the language you > > want is much easier to decide upon. > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > Alex Snow wrote: > > > > > > I would use, and want to learn, basic, if there was a free Compiler and/or > > > IDE for basic under winblows. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1 at uic.edu> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 2:56 PM > > > Subject: Re: free programming language > > > > > > > How about BASIC? > > > > Greg > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >