hi all, still have not got my problem fixed with the alsa driver situation 1. when i use the rec command to record when i hit ctrl c it takes it a very long time to shut down, also testing with sfmike and sfspeaker on lwl.braille.uwo.ca after a while it stays in the talk mode and i am unable to change it to the listen mode if i play a short wav file it again switches to the listen mode this subjests to me that there might be confusion about its out going and incomming files for talking and listening anyway i have had this problem since i upgraded to slackware 8.0 i am now using version 0.9.0beta9 of the alsa driver lib and utils i am using the sb16 module thanks in advance randy