O' okay whatever JFW uses for turning off that symbol. I don't hear it in Window-Eyes or WinVision and use JFW so rarely that I don't remember and when I do use JFW it's to drive the Braille Display only as I dislike how Eloquence operates on the 266MHZ box I have at work and JFW does such a poor job of implementing the Accent driver for the Artic Transport synthesizer. Amanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... funny, when I have symbols to most, I do hear it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Lee" <amanda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 11:55 AM Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... I set symbols to most and I don't hear the > signs at all. When I talk to people, I don't say punctuation or symbols to them unless I'm describing the syntax of something so don't see the need to hear it from speech output either. If I need to clarify the syntax of an item, then I review it with the appropriate review features of a Screen Reader or verify with a Braile Display when using a Braille Dislay. Amanda Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... yes, they are pronounced and I know I can kill them but then if I did that, I'd get some char strings rong so don't want to. In pine, you can eliminate them from first generation forwarding and you can do this in oe too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... Yep. You're in ISO 8895(1). Now, please explain about the >< thingie. Are those being pronounced on you? They do serve a function, of course, but I can also understand why they're annoying with the current state of screen readers. Ideally, their presence at the beginning of a line of text should trigger some sonic change in the speech such as pitch, I would think. On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > test > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Stivers" <stivers_t at mail.utexas.edu> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... > > > Assuming you are using OE go to tools, options and then the send > tab. Tab until you get to what I believe is called international > settings... button and hit enter. Then you will be in a combo box of > char sets and the one you want is I believe western iso or something, > but > it definitely has iso in it. If you can't find it next time I have to > run > windows I will look. > > -- > > -- > Thomas Stivers > stivers_t at mail.utexas.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup