how should a mailer be set up for a "blind" list? we need to define that before we can move forward. I may be on a blind list that is for windows stuff and everybody uses a windows mailer and it's all ok. I do understand and agree with a lot of what you say here though. I manually set up every mailer i install or use. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:37 PM Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... Perhaps, it would be a good idea for someone using outlook (I haven't used it for over a year now), to write a specific document detailing which radio buttons and so on should be checked or unchecked to set outlook up properly. It is true that this could be figured out, but there are some people out there that just won't take the time to find out how to configure outlook properly for blind lists. What's even worse is that some people don't even know how to find out how to configure outlook. They let their isps set things up for them with automated software, and they think that's it. Greg On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 01:41:00PM -0500, Brian Borowski wrote: > Greg: > Maybe they can't aford a modem, but they sure can adjust settings to reduce > crap in their out-going mail, and if they don't know how, then find someone > who can help get through the settings and change it. The idea, that an > empty message from a standard windows email client contains about 2K of > nothing is just stupid and a waste... > > Brian Borowski > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > Fortunately, this doesn't appply to me anymore since I got broadband. But, you know, hardware modems are not exactly cheap. Yes, there are some gnu/linux drivers for windows modems, but not everyone has a supported modem. So, if you'd like people on this list to be using pine, mutt, ETC. for their mail, take into consideration the fact that not everyone here can aford a new modem, or an expensive broadband connection. > > Greg > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:20:50AM -0500, Brian Borowski wrote: > > > I guess this has been discussed bofore, but I can't help doing it again. > > > Why do so many people use outlook and other Windows utilities to post to > > > this list? It's understandable if you're a new user, but doing it for a > > > year or two, makes me wonder; if you're a Windows user and never want to > > > use linux to do your stuff; get off the list, and stop polluting it with > > > crap. If you're a windows user, and insist on posting (especially for > > > some of those high-volume posters), then change your settings so that we > > > don't have to se a couple of Kbytes of header, and shut off the damn html > > > repeat of your message that shows up at the end. It may come as a big > > > surprise to some people, but when us people who use pine and other mail > > > readers have to go through hundreds of messages; we don't want to see > > > (hear) all that garbage; it's a nuisance, and it slows us down terribly, > > > just trying to get through the list. > > > > > > Also, I'm in complete agreement with the complaints about including > > > messages including messages, including messages within eachother until > > > things get huge; it's a waste of bandwidth, and time. I also notice, that > > > some users seem to post multiple copies of their messages; please, have > > > pity on us who read our mail? While I'm complaining: > > > Why do people include 50 or 100 lines of others messages, and then put > > > their one line comment about it right at the end of all that stuff? My > > > advice, is that if you're going to include all that stuff, and have five or > > > ten words to say about; why not put your comment at the top, and save us > > > all that reading through stuff we've probably already seen before so many > > > times? > > > > > > Brian Borowski > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
