I see my last message came around twice; sorry for that. Somehow I ended up replying to the list with a CC to the list. While we are bitching about things, my own pet peeve is email messages full of typos and spellos. You folks with eyes usually compensate automatically for such nonsense, but those of us who rely on speech synthesizers are cursed (blessed?) with a device that tells us exactly what it sees. I have recently implemented a short script which is invoked as an alternate editor by pine instead of its regular composer. That script first calls a real editor ("nano" in my case) and then it calls "ispell" against the same file. I automatically have to spell check my compositions before pine will let me send them. If anybody wants more details (hint hint, KW!) I will be glad to supply them. This list is getting to be a pain in the ass to read lately, but I presume the mood will change when the phase of the moon changes or something. Chuck *<<<=-=>>>*<<<=-=>>>*<<<=-=>>>*<<<=-=>>>* Visit me now at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck The Moon is Waning Gibbous (79% of Full)