You know, I use pine myself and don't see what it is that so many people complain about. Occasionally I see a bunch of tags. Normally I just delete and move on. Ocasionally I will wade through the tags for the message. I think I have noticed it 5 or 6 times over last 6 months or so. So my question is: what is different about the "debainized" pine? (For those not aware debian has one download the source and a patch that combines to form a pine with differences that the docs indicate changes locations for some things.) ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit.